many themes rumoured

How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and Aero (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been almost five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who wants an alternative look?
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It was a bad choice from the start to do their glass thingy.
When you stylize too much like that, times goes by and it looks outdated. Any good artist could have told them that.
Glass looks already old to me now... imagine what will happen when all the sites and applications start copying this thing... you will see glass and you will puke!
3rd party developers will make apps to customize though, like windowblinds.
Fortunately it costs only 20 $

"Turn Round" wrote in message

How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and Aero (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been almost five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who wants an alternative look?
Thanks

My understanding its 3: Aero Aero Basic - this one is really Classic - crippled, looks like XP Classic, but gone really bad. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Turn Round" wrote in message

How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and Aero (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been almost five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who wants an alternative look?
Thanks

With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero?
-- Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

I think for Aero Glass, you can change the colors to whatever you like. (You have like 10 or so choices, but then you can use a color picker to pick whatever color you want.) This is just from screenshots that I've seen. For the basic Aero, I don't know. "Jane Colman" wrote in message

With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero?
-- Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

Yeh, you can really customise Aero Glass fully in terms of colour schemes. There are expected to be Plus! addons as well that should impliment Glass - not entirely sure how though to be honest.
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I think for Aero Glass, you can change the colors to whatever you like. (You have like 10 or so choices, but then you can use a color picker to pick whatever color you want.) This is just from screenshots that I've seen. For the basic Aero, I don't know. "Jane Colman" wrote in message With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero?
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Yeh there's 3 Andre.
Aero Glass - the glassy "wowww" effect Aero Basic (aka Aero Express) - or "scrap metal" as some people say Classic - yikes! Back to the Server 2003 days ;o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

My understanding its 3: Aero Aero Basic - this one is really Classic - crippled, looks like XP Classic, but gone really bad. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Turn Round" wrote in message How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and Aero (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been almost five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who wants an alternative look?
Thanks

Fully? That's a bit of a stretch. :) I could get my taskbar green, but it was rather limited as to brightness etc. etc.
If Microsoft Plus! for Windows Vista is anything like Microsoft Plus! for Windows XP there won't be any truly new themes .. just the old ones warmed over - not anywhere near worth the purchase price until they bundled it into a Superpack and pricecut.
I was hoping for more in tterms of themes etc. after all these years, but who cares now .. Vista will make Microsoft and the IT industry money and that's all that counts as far as MS and the IT indusrty care .. and it will be interesting enough to work with.
Zack Whittaker wrote: | Yeh, you can really customise Aero Glass fully in terms of colour schemes. | There are expected to be Plus! addons as well that should impliment Glass | - not entirely sure how though to be honest. | | | --: Original message follows :-- | "Travis King" wrote in message | || I think for Aero Glass, you can change the colors to whatever you like. || (You have like 10 or so choices, but then you can use a color picker to || pick whatever color you want.) This is just from screenshots that I've || seen. For the basic Aero, I don't know. || "Jane Colman" wrote in message || ||| With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and ||| green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero? ||| ||| -- ||| Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) ||| Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

Well the two are a variation of one - Aero - one with "glass" on the other with it off. They are not two distinct "themes".
Zack Whittaker wrote: | Yeh there's 3 Andre. | | Aero Glass - the glassy "wowww" effect | Aero Basic (aka Aero Express) - or "scrap metal" as some people say | Classic - yikes! Back to the Server 2003 days ;o) | | | --: Original message follows :-- | "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message | || My understanding its 3: || Aero || Aero Basic - this one is really || Classic - crippled, looks like XP Classic, but gone really bad. || -- || Andre || Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com || Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre || http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta || FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm || || "Turn Round" wrote in message || ||| How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and ||| Aero ||| (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and ||| actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been ||| almost ||| five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy ||| costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who ||| wants an ||| alternative look? ||| ||| Thanks

The stuff at themexp.org all have bundled ad and spyware. Even the wallpapaer comes as an executable. I just don't like those third party theme programs. Buggy and suspect.
John Jay Smith wrote: | It was a bad choice from the start to do their glass thingy. | | When you stylize too much like that, times goes by and it looks outdated. | Any good artist could have told them that. | | Glass looks already old to me now... imagine what will happen when all the | sites | and applications start copying this thing... you will see glass and you | will puke! | | 3rd party developers will make apps to customize though, like | windowblinds. | | Fortunately it costs only 20 $ | | | | | "Turn Round" wrote in message | || How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and || Aero (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right || and actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been || almost five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky || buggy costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone || who wants an || alternative look? || || Thanks

Its 8 -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Travis King" wrote in message

I think for Aero Glass, you can change the colors to whatever you like. (You have like 10 or so choices, but then you can use a color picker to pick whatever color you want.) This is just from screenshots that I've seen. For the basic Aero, I don't know. "Jane Colman" wrote in message With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero?
-- Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

P.S. A variation on the Classic theme is what I will probably end using most in Vista, although since Aero is pretty good I will probably use it sometimes. Too bad there's not a couple more true themes. With Vista's graphic capabilities there should have been. But there's a few months yet, so who knows?
And BTW, you can use Royale and the XP theme in Server 2003. You might need to enable the "Themes" service in Computer Management - but it's there.
Zack Whittaker wrote: | Yeh there's 3 Andre. | | Aero Glass - the glassy "wowww" effect | Aero Basic (aka Aero Express) - or "scrap metal" as some people say | Classic - yikes! Back to the Server 2003 days ;o) | | | --: Original message follows :-- | "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message | || My understanding its 3: || Aero || Aero Basic - this one is really || Classic - crippled, looks like XP Classic, but gone really bad. || -- || Andre || Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com || Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre || http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta || FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm || || "Turn Round" wrote in message || ||| How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and ||| Aero ||| (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and ||| actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been ||| almost ||| five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy ||| costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who ||| wants an ||| alternative look? ||| ||| Thanks

Yeah, I discovered that tonight when I looked at a screenshot more closely. "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Its 8 -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Travis King" wrote in message I think for Aero Glass, you can change the colors to whatever you like. (You have like 10 or so choices, but then you can use a color picker to pick whatever color you want.) This is just from screenshots that I've seen. For the basic Aero, I don't know. "Jane Colman" wrote in message With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero?
-- Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

themexp has gone bad .... and it didn't have window blind themes in the first place
it used another program called stylexp
"Turn Round" wrote in message

The stuff at themexp.org all have bundled ad and spyware. Even the wallpapaer comes as an executable. I just don't like those third party theme programs. Buggy and suspect.
John Jay Smith wrote: | It was a bad choice from the start to do their glass thingy. | | When you stylize too much like that, times goes by and it looks outdated. | Any good artist could have told them that. | | Glass looks already old to me now... imagine what will happen when all the | sites | and applications start copying this thing... you will see glass and you | will puke! | | 3rd party developers will make apps to customize though, like | windowblinds. | | Fortunately it costs only 20 $ | | | | | "Turn Round" wrote in message | || How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and || Aero (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right || and actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been || almost five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky || buggy costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone || who wants an || alternative look? || || Thanks

Royale works fine in XP x64 too :)
-- Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

I think you are referring to theme that change the visual layout of interface. If you really like that kinda stuff, Windows Blinds would be what you are looking for. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Turn Round" wrote in message

Fully? That's a bit of a stretch. :) I could get my taskbar green, but it was rather limited as to brightness etc. etc.
If Microsoft Plus! for Windows Vista is anything like Microsoft Plus! for Windows XP there won't be any truly new themes .. just the old ones warmed over - not anywhere near worth the purchase price until they bundled it into a Superpack and pricecut.
I was hoping for more in tterms of themes etc. after all these years, but who cares now .. Vista will make Microsoft and the IT industry money and that's all that counts as far as MS and the IT indusrty care .. and it will be interesting enough to work with.
Zack Whittaker wrote: | Yeh, you can really customise Aero Glass fully in terms of colour schemes. | There are expected to be Plus! addons as well that should impliment Glass | - not entirely sure how though to be honest. | | | --: Original message follows :-- | "Travis King" wrote in message | || I think for Aero Glass, you can change the colors to whatever you like. || (You have like 10 or so choices, but then you can use a color picker to || pick whatever color you want.) This is just from screenshots that I've || seen. For the basic Aero, I don't know. || "Jane Colman" wrote in message || ||| With the default XP theme, there are 3 colour choices...silver, blue and ||| green. Will Vista have colour choices for Aero? ||| ||| -- ||| Jane, not plain ;) 64bit enabled ;) ||| Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

Aero Basic is the one without Glass, I suspect this theme does not utilize DWM. AERO in Vista Home Basic utilizes DWM, but does not utilize Glass. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Turn Round" wrote in message

Well the two are a variation of one - Aero - one with "glass" on the other with it off. They are not two distinct "themes".
Zack Whittaker wrote: | Yeh there's 3 Andre. | | Aero Glass - the glassy "wowww" effect | Aero Basic (aka Aero Express) - or "scrap metal" as some people say | Classic - yikes! Back to the Server 2003 days ;o) | | | --: Original message follows :-- | "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message | || My understanding its 3: || Aero || Aero Basic - this one is really || Classic - crippled, looks like XP Classic, but gone really bad. || -- || Andre || Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com || Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre || http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta || FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm || || "Turn Round" wrote in message || ||| How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and ||| Aero ||| (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and ||| actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been ||| almost ||| five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy ||| costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who ||| wants an ||| alternative look? ||| ||| Thanks

That's exactly right yeh - the Aero Basic theme is pretty much exactly how the standard theme ran in XP - it's just a "skin" with nothing else really running it. In theory if anyone could be bothered, it shouldn't be too difficult just to ResHack out the files, modify them and have psychdellic colours as your title bar ;o)
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--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Aero Basic is the one without Glass, I suspect this theme does not utilize DWM. AERO in Vista Home Basic utilizes DWM, but does not utilize Glass. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Turn Round" wrote in message Well the two are a variation of one - Aero - one with "glass" on the other with it off. They are not two distinct "themes".
Zack Whittaker wrote: | Yeh there's 3 Andre. | | Aero Glass - the glassy "wowww" effect | Aero Basic (aka Aero Express) - or "scrap metal" as some people say | Classic - yikes! Back to the Server 2003 days ;o) | | | --: Original message follows :-- | "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message | || My understanding its 3: || Aero || Aero Basic - this one is really || Classic - crippled, looks like XP Classic, but gone really bad. || -- || Andre || Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com || Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre || http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta || FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm || || "Turn Round" wrote in message || ||| How many themes will Vista have? 2? Classic (and colour variants) and ||| Aero ||| (and colour/glass+- variants)? Or will Microsoft do what is right and ||| actually provide an altogether another theme (considering it's been ||| almost ||| five years or half a decade)? Or is it going to have to be blinky buggy ||| costly perhaps even ad/spywared third party software for anyone who ||| wants an ||| alternative look? ||| ||| Thanks